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San Marino prosvjeduje protiv novog načina glasovanja

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Rano ujutro, Carlo Romeo, glavni direktor nacionalne televizije San Marina, izrazio je svoje nezadovoljstvo promjenom načina glasovanja na ovogodišnjem Eurosongu.

Nova pravila, osim predstavljanja zasebnih rezultata glasovanja žirija i publike, nalažu i da će se svim zemljama koje ne mogu postići valjani rezultat glasanja publike, zamijeniti rezultat koji će izračunavati televoting prethodno odabranih skupina zemalja koje su dogovorene od strane EBU-a.

– Male države su ponovno podcijenjene no sada je to i formalizirano. To je nepodnošljivo, a San Marino nije siguran može li to tolerirati i sljedeće godine. Neke se odluke ne dijele sa sudionicima i osjećamo se izigranima. – izjava je glavnog direktora RTV-a.

San Marino je na natjecanju od 2008. godine i samo se jednom uspio probiti u veliko finale. Bilo je to 2014. godine sa pjesmom Maybe (Forse) koju je izvela Valentina Monetta. Nikada dosada nisu uspjeli prikupiti valjani rezultat televotinga što zbog veličine same države i malog broja stanovnika, što zbog toga jer koriste isti pozivni broj kao Italija. Ponovi li se takav scenarij i ove godine, postaje izvjesno da ovu državicu nećemo gledati dogodine.

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  1. Andrej — 25. veljače 2016. u 00:48

    Za 2013. se ne može znati jer je objavljen samo presjek,.a ne bodovi..Mada ni za ostale nije najpreciznije jer neke zemlje su imale samo glasove publike ili samo glasove žirija.

  2. Atase — 24. veljače 2016. u 21:37

    thanks

    po tom novom glasanju, bi s klapom bili u finalu

  3. Kosmopolj — 24. veljače 2016. u 19:40

    @agent
    odlično si dao ove preglede …. kako bi izgledalo po novom sistemu bodovanja ..

  4. Atase — 24. veljače 2016. u 19:34

    2014

    I had more information available for 2014 and 2015 so was able to see exactly which Jury/Televote was not used. In workings on wikipedia it appears they just doubled the Televote/Jury where required. Here I will simply disregard the non exsistent vote.

    Jury (No votes from Georgia included)

    01. Austria – 214
    02. Netherlands – 200
    03. Sweden – 199
    04. Hungary – 138
    05. Malta – 119
    06. Finland – 114
    07. Armenia – 113
    08. Norway – 102
    09. Azerbaijan – 101
    10. Denmark – 85
    11. Spain – 83
    12. Ukraine – 72
    13. Russia – 62
    14. Iceland – 59
    15. Germany – 56
    16. Romania – 51
    17. Belarus – 50
    18. United Kingdom – 49
    19. Montenegro – 48
    20. Greece – 45
    21. Italy – 37
    22. Switzerland – 26
    23. Poland – 23
    24. Slovenia – 21
    25. San Marino – 16
    26. France – 5

    Televote (No votes from Albania or San Marino included)

    01. Austria – 306
    02. Netherlands – 220
    03. Armenia – 187
    04. Sweden – 173
    05. Poland – 162
    06. Russia – 120
    07. Romania – 115
    08. Switzerland – 114
    09. Ukraine – 112
    10. Hungary – 83
    11. Belarus – 56
    12. Denmark – 42
    13. Greece – 41
    14. Norway – 39
    15. Iceland – 38
    16. Finland – 36
    17. Spain – 29
    18. Germany – 27
    19. Montenegro – 27
    20. United Kingdom – 24
    21. Italy – 22
    22. San Marino – 15
    23. Slovenia – 15
    24. Azerbaijan – 14
    25. Malta – 12
    26. France – 1

    Combined

    01. Austria – 520 (=)
    02. Netherlands – 420 (=)
    03. Sweden – 372 (=)
    04. Armenia – 300 (=)
    05. Hungary – 221 (=)
    06. Poland – 185 (+8)
    07. Ukraine – 184 (-1)
    08. Russia – 182 (-1)
    09. Romania – 166 (+3)
    10. Finland – 150 (+1)
    11. Norway – 141 (-3)
    12. Switzerland – 140 (+1)
    13. Malta – 131 (+10)
    14. Denmark – 127 (-5)
    15. Azerbaijan – 115 (+7)
    16. Spain – 112 (-6)
    17. Belarus – 106 (-1)
    18. Iceland – 97 (-3)
    19. Greece – 86 (+1)
    20. Germany – 83 (-2)
    21. Montenegro – 75 (-2)
    22. United Kingdom – 73 (-5)
    23. Italy – 59 (-2)
    24. Slovenia – 36 (+1)
    25. San Marino – 31 (-1)
    26. France – 6 (=)

    Probably the first truly exciting voting where the result does go right down to the wire. After jury voting Austria would lead by 14 from Netherlands and 15 from Sweden (the made up televote for Georgia would change that slightly) and with the televote result being Austria (1st), Netherlands (2nd) and Sweden (4th) it would truly be a tense affair.

    There are also big changes across the board here, just the top 5 and France in last remain the same, biggest winners are Malta which climbs a massive 10 places to 13th thanks to an high jury vote and Poland which climbs 8 places from 14th to 6th thanks to a very strong televote, Azerbaijan also has a big climb of 7 places.

    Biggest losers are Spain which drops 6 places and Denmark and UK which both drop 5 places.

    Semi-Final 1 Combined (No Albania, Moldova, San Marino or Montenegro televote)

    01. Netherlands – 260
    02. Hungary – 225
    03. Sweden – 223
    04. Armenia – 198
    05. Ukraine – 184
    06. Russia – 114
    07. Iceland – 111
    08. Azerbaijan – 109
    09. Montenegro – 100
    10. Portugal – 82
    11. Estonia – 74
    11. San Marino – 74
    13. Albania – 70
    14. Latvia – 65
    15. Belgium – 55
    16. Moldova – 28

    The change here see's Portugal move into the top 10 and qualifying at the expense of San Marino, however with 4 countries televotes missing things could easily change as it is very close, even Latvia down in 14th could have a shot at qualifying with the 4 added televotes.

    Semi-Final 2 Combined (No Georgia or Macedonia televote)

    01. Austria – 287
    02. Romania – 211
    03. Finland – 169
    04. Switzerland – 148
    05. Poland – 147
    06. Norway – 146
    07. Belarus – 143
    08. Greece – 140
    09. Malta – 129
    10. Slovenia – 104
    11. Macedonia – 96
    12. Lithuania – 78
    13. Ireland – 73
    14. Israel – 53
    15. Georgia – 48

    No changes in the top 10 for Semi 2 and Macedonia would be unlikely to make up the points on Slovenia as they were one of the two who did not have any televote points recorded.

  5. Atase — 24. veljače 2016. u 19:02

    2012

    Jury

    01. Sweden – 296
    02. Serbia – 173
    03. Albania – 157
    03. Italy – 157
    05. Spain – 154
    06. Estonia – 152
    07. Ukraine – 125
    08. Azerbaijan – 118
    09. Moldova – 104
    10. Germany – 98
    11. Russia – 94
    12. Cyprus – 85
    12. France – 85
    14. Lithuania – 82
    15. Bosnia & H – 71
    16. Malta – 70
    17. Macedonia – 69
    18. Greece – 60
    19. Romania – 53
    19. Iceland – 53
    21. Denmark – 51
    22. Turkey – 50
    23. Hungary – 30
    24. Norway – 24
    25. Ireland – 14
    26. United Kingdom – 11

    Televote

    01. Sweden – 343
    02. Russia – 332
    03. Serbia – 211
    04. Turkey – 176
    05. Azerbaijan – 151
    06. Germany – 125
    07. Romania – 117
    08. Albania – 106
    09. Greece – 89
    09. Ireland – 89
    11. Macedonia – 79
    12. Estonia – 78
    13. Moldova – 75
    14. Lithuania – 68
    15. Cyprus – 63
    16. Bosnia & H – 57
    17. Italy – 56
    18. Spain – 45
    19. Iceland – 39
    20. Ukraine – 37
    21. United Kingdom – 36
    22. Hungary – 20
    23. Denmark – 18
    24. Norway – 16
    25. Malta – 10
    26. France – 0

    Combined

    01. Sweden – 639 (=)
    02. Russia – 426 (=)
    03. Serbia – 384 (=)
    04. Azerbaijan – 269 (=)
    05. Albania – 263 (=)
    06. Estonia – 230 (=)
    07. Turkey – 226 (=)
    08. Germany – 223 (=)
    09. Italy – 213 (=)
    10. Spain – 199 (=)
    11. Moldova – 179 (=)
    12. Romania – 170 (=)
    13. Ukraine – 162 (+2)
    14. Lithuania – 150 (=)
    15. Greece – 149 (+2)
    16. Macedonia – 148 (-3)
    16. Cyprus – 148 (=)
    18. Bosnia & H – 128 (=)
    19. Ireland – 103 (=)
    20. Iceland – 92 (=)
    21. France – 85 (+1)
    22. Malta – 80 (-1)
    23. Denmark – 69 (=)
    24. Hungary – 50 (=)
    25. United Kingdom – 47 (=)
    26. Norway – 40 (=)

    Sweden would be away and gone after the jury vote so not that much excitement happening here. There are no changes at all in the top 12 places in these results and only an handful of changes lower down the board. Ukraine and Greece are the two big winners both climbing 2 places, Macedonia the big loser dropping 3 places and the only other change is France and Malta swapping places.

    Semi-Final 1 Combined

    01. Russia – 264
    02. Albania – 262
    03. Romania – 219
    04. Greece – 213
    05. Moldova – 192
    06. Cyprus – 189
    07. Ireland – 188
    08. Iceland – 149
    09. Denmark – 134
    10. Hungary – 115
    11. Switzerland – 94
    12. Finland – 93
    13. Israel – 88
    14. San Marino – 67
    15. Montenegro – 52
    16. Austria – 42
    17. Belgium – 40
    18. Latvia – 35

    No changes in the top 10 qualifiers and just minimal changes down the field.

    Semi-Final 2 Combined

    01. Sweden – 325
    02. Serbia – 289
    03. Estonia – 190
    04. Lithuania – 183
    05. Turkey – 156
    06. Bosnia & H – 147
    07. Malta – 136
    08. Ukraine – 133
    09. Macedonia – 121
    10. Croatia – 100
    11. Norway – 97
    12. Belarus – 89
    13. Portugal – 86
    13. Bulgaria – 86
    15. Netherlands – 82
    16. Georgia – 77
    17. Slovakia – 72
    18. Slovenia – 67

    A change in the qualifiers for Semi 2, Croatia would climb from 12th to take the final qualifying spot away from Norway.

  6. Atase — 24. veljače 2016. u 19:00

    2011

    Jury

    01. Italy – 251
    02. Azerbaijan – 182
    03. Denmark – 168
    04. Slovenia – 160
    05. Austria – 145
    06. Ireland – 119
    07. Ukraine – 117
    08. Serbia – 111
    09. Sweden – 106
    10. Germany – 104
    11. Bosnia & H – 90
    11. France – 90
    13. Romania – 86
    14. Greece – 84
    15. Moldova – 82
    16. Georgia – 79
    17. Finland – 75
    18. Estonia – 74
    19. Iceland – 72
    20. Lithuania – 66
    21. Hungary – 60
    22. United Kingdom – 57
    23. Switzerland – 53
    24. Spain – 38
    25. Russia – 25

    Televote

    01. Azerbaijan – 223
    02. Sweden – 221
    03. Greece – 176
    04. Ukraine – 168
    05. United Kingdom – 166
    06. Bosnia & H – 151
    07. Georgia – 138
    07. Russia – 138
    09. Germany – 113
    10. Ireland – 101
    11. Italy – 99
    12. Moldova – 98
    13. Serbia – 89
    14. Romania – 79
    15. France – 76
    16. Spain – 73
    17. Hungary – 64
    18. Denmark – 61
    19. Iceland – 60
    20. Lithuania – 55
    21. Finland – 47
    22. Slovenia – 39
    23. Estonia – 32
    24. Austria – 25
    25. Switzerland – 2

    Combined

    01. Azerbaijan – 405 (=)
    02. Italy – 350 (=)
    03. Sweden – 327 (=)
    04. Ukraine – 285 (=)
    05. Greece – 260 (+2)
    06. Bosnia & H – 241 (=)
    07. Denmark – 229 (-2)
    08. United Kingdom – 223 (+3)
    09. Ireland – 220 (-1)
    10. Georgia – 217 (-1)
    10. Germany – 217 (=)
    12. Serbia – 200 (+2)
    13. Slovenia – 199 (=)
    14. Moldova – 180 (-2)
    15. Austria – 170 (+3)
    16. France – 166 (-1)
    17. Romania – 165 (=)
    18. Russia – 163 (-2)
    19. Iceland – 132 (+1)
    20. Hungary – 124 (+2)
    21. Finland – 122 (=)
    22. Lithuania – 121 (-3)
    23. Spain – 111 (=)
    24. Estonia – 106 (=)
    25. Switzerland – 55 (=)

    So Italy would lead after the jury vote, but Azerbaijan would take a comfortable overall win thanks to Italy and those close to Azerbaijan in the jury vote having a poor televote result. The top 4 remain the same whilst Greece climbs 2 places to 5th replacing Denmark who drop 2 places to 7th. The biggest winners are UK, up 3 places to 8th and Austria up 3 places to 15th, whilst Lithuania was the biggest loser dropping 3 places to 22nd.

    Semi-Final 1 Combined

    01. Azerbaijan – 233
    02. Greece – 228
    03. Finland – 197
    04. Iceland – 183
    05. Lithuania – 165
    06. Serbia – 144
    07. Georgia – 141
    08. Hungary – 138
    09. Russia – 124
    10. Switzerland – 121
    11. Turkey – 112
    12. Malta – 108
    12. Armenia – 108
    14. Albania – 103
    15. Norway – 85
    16. San Marino – 82
    17. Croatia – 81
    18. Portugal – 45
    19. Poland – 38

    No changes in the top 10 here and the top 3 remains the same, there are some minor changes most notably Turkey moving into 11th and first loser spot, Malta and Armenia are also again tied on points like they were in the actual results.

    Semi-Final 2 Combined

    01. Sweden – 258
    02. Denmark – 244
    03. Slovenia – 214
    04. Romania – 206
    05. Bosnia & H – 196
    06. Ukraine – 167
    07. Austria – 147
    08. Ireland – 144
    09. Estonia – 129
    10. Belgium – 121
    11. Moldova – 114
    12. Slovakia – 111
    13. Bulgaria – 102
    14. Belarus – 92
    15. Israel – 87
    16. Macedonia – 80
    17. Latvia – 54
    18. Cyprus – 47
    19. Netherlands – 39

    We have a change of qualifiers here as Belgium moves into the top 10 pushing Moldova out (who for a second year in a row would be pushed out of qualifying under the new rules). Once again outside of this there is only minor changes to talk about.

  7. Atase — 24. veljače 2016. u 18:59

    2010

    Jury

    01. Germany – 187
    02. Belgium – 185
    03. Romania – 167
    04. Georgia – 160
    05. Israel – 134
    06. Ukraine – 129
    07. Denmark – 121
    08. Turkey – 119
    09. Armenia – 116
    09. Azerbaijan – 116
    11. Greece – 110
    12. Albania – 97
    13. Portugal – 69
    14. Bosnia & H – 65
    15. Russia – 63
    16. Ireland – 62
    17. Norway – 61
    18. Iceland – 57
    18. Cyprus – 57
    20. Spain – 43
    21. Serbia – 37
    22. France – 34
    23. Moldova – 33
    24. Belarus – 22
    25. United Kingdom – 18

    Televote

    01. Germany – 243
    02. Turkey – 177
    03. Denmark – 174
    04. Armenia – 166
    05. Azerbaijan – 161
    06. Romania – 155
    07. Greece – 152
    08. France – 151
    09. Georgia – 127
    10. Serbia – 110
    11. Russia – 107
    12. Spain – 106
    13. Ukraine – 94
    14. Belgium – 76
    15. Iceland – 40
    16. Albania – 35
    16. Bosnia & H – 35
    18. Moldova – 28
    19. Israel – 27
    20. Portugal – 24
    21. Norway – 18
    21. Belarus – 18
    23. Cyprus – 16
    24. Ireland – 15
    25. United Kingdom – 7

    Combined

    01. Germany – 430 (=)
    02. Romania – 322 (+1)
    03. Turkey – 296 (-1)
    04. Denmark – 295 (=)
    05. Georgia – 287 (+4)
    06. Armenia – 282 (+1)
    07. Azerbaijan – 277 (-2)
    08. Greece – 262 (=)
    09. Belgium – 261 (-3)
    10. Ukraine – 223 (=)
    11. France – 185 (+1)
    12. Russia – 170 (-1)
    13. Israel – 161 (+1)
    14. Spain – 149 (+1)
    15. Serbia – 147 (-2)
    16. Albania – 132 (=)
    17. Bosnia & H – 100 (=)
    18. Iceland – 97 (+1)
    19. Portugal – 93 (-1)
    20. Norway – 79 (=)
    21. Ireland – 77 (+2)
    22. Cyprus – 73 (-1)
    23. Moldova – 61 (-1)
    24. Belarus – 40 (=)
    25. United Kingdom – 25 (=)

    So the jury vote was very close here, just 2 points between Germany and Belgium with Romania and Georgia not too far away. In the combined Germany still wins but Romania are 2nd, with Turkey 3rd instead of the other way around. Georgia are the big winners, moving up 4 places to finish 5th. While thanks to a poor televote Belgium drop from being 2 points behind after the jury to finishing in 9th overall (3 places worse then their finish under the old rules).

    Semi-Final 1 Combined

    01. Belgium – 311
    02. Greece – 250
    03. Iceland – 234
    04. Portugal – 165
    05. Albania – 164
    06. Serbia – 157
    07. Russia – 133
    08. Bosnia & H – 128
    09. Belarus – 110
    10. Malta – 106
    10. Finland – 106
    12. Poland – 96
    12. Moldova – 96
    14. Macedonia – 92
    15. Estonia – 86
    16. Slovakia – 59
    17. Latvia – 27

    A shocking result in Semi 1 as there is a tie for 10th between Malta and Finland and without full split details I can't actually split them. Moldova would be the one losing out, finishing equal with Poland in 12th.

    Semi-Final 2 Qualifiers

    01. Georgia – 219
    02. Azerbaijan – 215
    03. Turkey – 212
    04. Romania – 193
    05. Denmark – 189
    06. Armenia – 174
    07. Ukraine – 155
    08. Sweden – 140
    09. Israel – 134
    10. Cyprus – 132
    11. Ireland – 127
    12. Lithuania – 92
    13. Croatia – 76
    14. Netherlands – 75
    15. Bulgaria – 40
    16. Slovenia – 16
    17. Switzerland – 15

    A change in the qualifiers in Semi 2 as well, Sweden would make it through climbing all the way to 8th whilst Ireland would drop out of the top 10, just missing out by 5 points to Cyprus. Georgia and Turkey would also swap places with Azerbaijan remaining in 2nd in-between them.

  8. Atase — 24. veljače 2016. u 18:59

    2009

    Jury

    01. Norway – 312
    02. Iceland – 260
    03. United Kingdom – 223
    04. France – 164
    05. Estonia – 124
    06. Denmark – 120
    07. Turkey – 114
    08. Azerbaijan – 112
    09. Israel – 107
    10. Greece – 93
    10. Moldova – 93
    12. Bosnia & H – 90
    13. Malta – 87
    14. Germany – 73
    15. Armenia – 71
    16. Ukraine – 68
    17. Russia – 67
    18. Portugal – 64
    19. Croatia – 58
    20. Romania – 31
    20. Lithuania – 31
    22. Sweden – 27
    23. Albania – 26
    24. Finland – 12
    25. Spain – 9

    Televote

    01. Norway – 378
    02. Azerbaijan – 253
    03. Turkey – 203
    04. Iceland – 173
    05. Greece – 151
    06. Estonia – 129
    07. Bosnia & H – 124
    08. Russia – 118
    09. Armenia – 111
    10. United Kingdom – 105
    11. Albania – 81
    12. Ukraine – 70
    13. Moldova – 66
    14. Romania – 64
    15. Sweden – 59
    16. Croatia – 55
    17. France – 54
    18. Portugal – 45
    19. Denmark – 40
    20. Lithuania – 38
    20. Spain – 38
    22. Finland – 30
    23. Malta – 18
    23. Germany – 18
    25. Israel – 15

    Combined

    01. Norway – 690 (=)
    02. Iceland – 433 (=)
    03. Azerbaijan – 365 (=)
    04. United Kingdom – 328 (+1)
    05. Turkey – 317 (-1)
    06. Estonia – 253 (=)
    07. Greece – 244 (=)
    08. France – 218 (=)
    09. Bosnia & H – 214 (=)
    10. Russia – 185 (+1)
    11. Armenia – 182 (-1)
    12. Denmark – 160 (+1)
    13. Moldova – 159 (+1)
    14. Ukraine – 138 (-2)
    15. Israel – 122 (+1)
    16. Croatia – 113 (+2)
    17. Portugal – 109 (-2)
    18. Albania – 107 (-1)
    19. Malta – 105 (+3)
    20. Romania – 95 (-1)
    21. Germany – 91 (-1)
    22. Sweden – 86 (-1)
    23. Lithuania – 69 (=)
    24. Spain – 47 (=)
    25. Finland – 42 (=)

    Top 3 remain the same but UK and Turkey swap places in 4th and 5th, the only other change is that Russia moves above Armenia into 10th. The biggest winner is Malta who would have climbed 3 places to 19th whilst both Ukraine and Portugal are the biggest losers both dropping 2 places.

    So not an whole lot of difference with the 2009 result.

  9. Etymon — 24. veljače 2016. u 00:38

    da, masters of chant
    upravo slušam i ježe mi se listovi
    koji čudan feeling xd
    https://www.eurovision.de/Gregorian-Masters-Of-Chant,gregorian106.html

  10. Maja — 24. veljače 2016. u 00:37

    Ali svejedo će pobijediti najbolja pjesma 🙂 🙂

  11. Dante — 24. veljače 2016. u 00:32

    Slazem se sa San Marinom da ova odluka nije donesena na fer nacin.. Ne iz razloga da mi se novi sistem glasovanja ne svida, dapace, bit ce zanimljivije i napetije, ali ova odluka nije donesena po dogovoru svih ratiotelevizija, odnosno sudionika, nego je na to pristalo osmero ljudi, od cega su troje sefovi delegacija (Slovenija, Italija i Nizozemska).

  12. ❤Jacob❤ — 24. veljače 2016. u 00:07

    ljudici pridruzite mi se na forumu temi o poljskoj. zanima me vase misljenje. bit ce i kolaca 🙂

  13. Etymon — 24. veljače 2016. u 00:03

    ok prikanice moja : )
    ko pjeva zlo ne misli <3

  14. Maja — 24. veljače 2016. u 00:02

    Prika moj, susjede budim s ovim 🙂 mislim da su mi susjedi jako dobro upućeni u Eurosong zbog mog deranja haha

  15. Etymon — 23. veljače 2016. u 23:59

    hoćemo jedan chameleon duet
    far away at the break of day, we can do anythingggg
    bare your soul, shed your flesh and bone
    feel it within
    SAD TI !! : ))))

  16. Maja — 23. veljače 2016. u 23:57

    Hahahahaha 🙂 okružena with Italy

  17. Etymon — 23. veljače 2016. u 23:53

    italy?
    didn't know you are there
    <3 vale

  18. Maja — 23. veljače 2016. u 23:50

    Love from Italy, Etymon <3 from Valentina 🙂

  19. Etymon — 23. veljače 2016. u 23:46

    nek mi odrežu lijevo jaje, ak valentina ne čita ovo
    pomoću google translatora xd
    možda si je i regala nick Maja : )))))))
    šala mala

  20. ❤Jacob❤ — 23. veljače 2016. u 23:45

    e da vas Valentina čuje, nastupila bi i 4. put 😀

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